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Listen...You owe it to yourself

Listen America...whose opinion is more respected on GZ then this guy?

 Two mayors. Who to follow:

 Rudy... who led New York and the rest of America through choking dust, tons of  debris, and the murder of almost 3,000 people on 911? 

Or Bloomberg, a billionaire liberal elite who has the the backbone of a chocolate eclair!

Giuliani: Ground Zero Mosque a "Desecration"

Via Politico's Maggie Haberman, here's Rudy Giuliani on the Ground Zero Mosque:


"It sends a particularly bad message, particularly (because) of the background of the Imam who is supporting this. This is an Imam who has supported radical causes, who has not been forthright in condemning Islamic (terrorism) and the worst instincts that that brings about."


"So it not only is exactly the wrong place, right at Ground Zero, but it's a mosque supported by an Imam who has a record of support for causes that were sympathetic with terrorism. Come on! We're gonna allow that at Ground Zero?"

"This is a desecration," he added. "Nobody would allow something like that at Pearl Harbor. Let's have some respect for who died there and why they died there. Let's not put this off on some kind of politically correct theory."

"I mean, they died there because of Islamic extremist terrorism. They are our enemy, we can say that, the world will not end when we say that. And the reality is it will not and should not insult any decent Muslim because decent Muslims should be as opposed to Islamic extremism as you and I are."

New Yorker's...if your not pissed off your not paying attention!

Listen America...whose opinion is more respected on GZ then this guy?

The Ground Zero Messiah

You be the judge.

This is what he initially said:

"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said, weighing in for the first time on a controversy that has riven New York City and the nation.

"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."

I guess you can't be more direct and straightforward then that.

 It's gratifying to know Obama's compassion and support for the ground zero mosque is shared by Hamas. 

But Wait...

Then he changed it to this:

"I was not commenting, and I will not comment, on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there," Obama said in revising and extending and eviscerating his remarks of the previous night. He had merely been commenting on freedom of religion.

In the article below the White House is trying to convince you Obama is not "backing off" his original statement. You see, his first statement was actually about how good the shrimp tacos are in lower Manhattan.

White House Says Politics Not a Factor in Decision to Enter Mosque Debate

The White House claimed Monday that politics were not at play in President Obama's decision to dive into the controversy over a planned mosque near Ground Zero, but the issue was quickly feeding fuel to Republicans looking to corner Democrats into taking a position on the issue.

White House spokesman Bill Burton said that he "can't speak to the politics of what the Republicans are doing," but the president was not looking to make political hay with his remarks, which he reportedly considered carefully before delivering them at a White House dinner on Friday night.

"The president didn't do this because of the politics. He spoke about it because he feels he has an obligation as the president to address this," Burton said.

The president stepped into the fray when he appeared to endorse the Park 51 mosque project during a Ramadan dinner at the White House. The next day, he clarified that he was merely commenting on fundamental religious freedoms -- and not specifically on the "wisdom" of the mosque project. Then Burton said Obama was not "backing off" his original remarks.

The prolonged presidential explanation has effectively elevated the issue beyond a local dispute and hurled it into the political arena. Republicans have both criticized his position and pressured other Democrats to take a stand on the politically sticky issue, one where charges of insensitivity have flown on both sides.

Democrats were mostly able to avoid the debate until the president spoke up.

The National Republican Senatorial Committee on Monday targeted Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., for not speaking out on the issue. Citing an article that said the normally chatty Schumer would not comment on the mosque remarks, the NRSC said Schumer should weigh in.

"It's a remarkable commentary on the most camera-friendly senator that he’s more than happy to weigh-in on caffeinated malt beverages, but he won’t take a public position on the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero," NRSC spokesman Brian Walsh said in a written statement.

"It's time for Chuck Schumer to stand up and be counted -- does he stand with President Obama in support of this mosque or does he stand with the countless 9/11 families who believe its location is inappropriate?" Walsh asked.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who opposes the mosque project, said Monday that the White House softened Obama's original comments because it probably heard "pushback" from other Democrats. He said Obama was "clearly" taking a side on the issue no matter what he claims.

"Everyone says as far as I know that the Muslim community has the right to build a mosque. The whole question is whether they should or not," he told Fox News. "So for the president to raise it in the way he did on Friday was clearly giving the impression that he was endorsing it or supporting it -- or tacitly supporting it."

Most Americans think the group planning the mosque and Islamic cultural center has the right to build it, according to a Fox News poll released Friday. However, the poll showed that 64 percent think it would be wrong to build it, regardless of whether the developers are within their right to do so.

Supporters of the mosque and cultural center in lower Manhattan, including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, say its development should stand as a testament to religious tolerance in America. They say it would be a mistake to equate Islam as a whole, and its practice in the United States, with Al Qaeda -- and remind critics that Muslims were also killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center.

Burton said Monday that the president weighed in as part of a constitutional discussion.

"The president thinks that it's his obligation to speak out when ... issues of the Constitution arise. And so, in this case, he decided to state clearly how he feels about making sure that people are treated equally, that there is a fairness and that our bedrock principles are upheld," Burton said.

He added the administration can't control the conversation on cable TV or in newspapers, but the White House has had a "pretty fulsome conversation" about it and has addressed it to a "pretty full extent."

"I think that it's a debate that was had and we've weighed in," Burton said.

The Ground Zero Messiah

There's a reason they want to build it at ground zero

And we all know what it is.

A triumph for Islam

A monument to victory

We came, we saw, we conquered.


Contact Bloomberg and let him know what you think.


http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b36d501c789a0/index.jsp?doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fmail%2Fhtml%2Fmayor.html

Offer Rejected to Move Mosque Away From Ground Zero to 'State Property'

Why...see above

The developers of the so-called Ground Zero mosque rejected New York Gov. David Paterson's offer to provide state property if the project is moved farther away from where the twin towers once stood.

In an effort to appease disputing parties, Paterson had said Tuesday that he would provide state help to the group sponsoring the Cordoba House if the developers opt to move it elsewhere.

"Frankly, if the sponsors were looking for property anywhere at a distance that would be such that it would accommodate a better feeling among the people who are frustrated, I would look into trying to provide them with the state property they would need," Paterson said.

While Paterson has "no objection" to the mosque being built a few blocks away from Ground Zero, he said he's "very sensitive to the desire of those who are adamant against it to see something else worked out."

But Paterson said Wednesday that the developers told his office they weren't interested in moving.

"I think they would like to stay where they are, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them," Paterson said. "Having said that, how much more foresighted would it have been if the imam who is the developer of the project had been willing to hear what we are actually talking about?"

The building of the $100 million Islamic center and mosque has led to a firestorm of criticism over its proposed location – just a few blocks away from the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by Islamic terrorists that left nearly 3,000 dead.

A handful of Republicans, like former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Arizona Sen. John McCain and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, have blasted the project's location, while others, including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, have forcefully defended it as a symbol of America's religious tolerance.

Religious leaders from various denominations also have supported the group's plans, arguing that critics' attacks amount to "religious bigotry."

"It's simply wrong for Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin, public figures who frequently reference their Christian values, to malign all Muslims by comparing this cultural center and mosque with a radical ideology that led to the horrific attacks of 9-11," said Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of NETWORK, a national lobbying group that advocates Catholic social justice. "We fail to honor those killed by terrorists when we betray the bedrock principle of religious freedom that has guided our democracy for centuries."

On Wednesday, the group leading the opposition against the mosque's planned location called the governor's "willingness to engage this issue" a "positive development."

"We're pleased that he realizes the sensitive nature of this issue," said Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, adding that he supports "having other land available to the mosque" but wouldn't want taxpayers to subsidize it.

The American Center for Law and Justice is fighting the New York City Landmarks Preservation Committee over the mosque plans -- the group filed suit against the committee after it declined to grant landmark status to the proposed site. The tower could span up to 15 stories and will house a mosque, a 500-seat auditorium and a pool.

The group also is calling on the State Department to back off plans to sponsor the imam of that controversial mosque on an upcoming trip to the Middle East.

The department confirmed Tuesday that the administration is sponsoring Feisal Abdul Rauf's trip to Qatar, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, which is described as part of a program to send Muslims abroad to educate other countries about the role of religion in the United States. Rauf made similar trips during the Bush administration. 

We're picking up the tab for this?

Rauf has become a controversial figure because of his refusal to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization, which is how the U.S. government classifies the group.

This is what kills me. The goal of Hamas is the destruction of Israel. Their motto...Death to the Jews! I know Bloomberg, a Jew, is not dumb. Then again, the saying...he's got more money then brains... certainly applies to him. 

The State Department, meanwhile, has defended Rauf and his planned visit to the Middle East.

"He is a distinguished Muslim cleric," said State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley. "We do have a program whereby, through our Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau here at the State Department, we send people from Muslim communities here in this country around the world to help people overseas understand our society and the role of religion within our society."

There's a reason they want to build it at ground zero

And you wonder why there was Auschwitz?

Lambs being led to slaughter

If the morons above were in Afghanistan their heads would be cut off so the Taliban could go bowling.

By the way have you ever seen Muslims gathered in a "Kum bay ya" moment singing to Christians?

Instead you get this

Bloomberg has stated he doesn't care where the money comes from to build the mosque

How quickly they forgive and forget.

Let me pose a question. Remember this guy, the Time Square bomber? 

 Faisal Shahzad

He tried to set off a bomb in a SUV; what must seem like (to them) eons ago (5-01-10).  Fortunately the bomb didn't go off but what if it had? 

Say 186 men, women, and children were killed. Would we be so understanding and "tolerant" now?

Let me give you another example.

This guy.

Yaser Abdel Said

killed these 2

His own daughters! He shot them. Why? It was an honor killing. Their crime. They dated Hispanic infidels. Tolerance in action. He killed his own daughters because they dated outside of Islam, but his wife (their mother) is an infidel!


Isolated instance you say? It takes place 5000 times a year somewhere in the world!

 But we have to be tolerant. You know, like Muslims are with cartoons and teddy bears.

This is the guy who wants to build the mosque

Feisal Abdul Raul

"The United States' policies were an accessory to the crime that happened, because we have been an accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA"

Hell I feel better already.

You show me 5,000 (Moderate-normal... if they exist) Muslims marching down Madison Ave with signs denouncing Bin Laden, and radical Islam, and I'll show you a mosque.

When you think about a mosque to be built as a monument to Islam, and the first brick hasn't been laid on the Freedom Tower to honor our dead, shows you where their liberal priorities lie. Where is the same "zeal" to build the Freedom Tower?

Bloomberg and rest of the liberal "elite" in NY are more concerned about the mosque then the Freedom Tower. A combination of political correctness and fear run amok.

On a side note, according to O'Reilly no construction crew in NY will build that mosque. Lets hope he's right.


Ground zero mosque


No NEED....to build it THERE

This lady knows what I'm talking about.

You sing it sister!

And you wonder why there was Auschwitz?