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Friday, January 10, 2020

Iran CLEARS debris from plane crash site with bulldozers before investigators even arrive after condemning 'big US lie' they shot the jet down and insisting Tehran will 'handle' black box data





US, British, and Canadian intelligence have determined that the Ukrainian plane that crashed in Iran on Wednesday morning was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile — a conclusion Iran has strongly denied.

Physical evidence at the crash site could prove what happened, but images from the scene show workers appearing to move chunks of debris with heavy machinery.

One expert said this could make it "next to impossible" to properly investigate the crash.

Iran has also been reluctant to hand over the flight recorders from the Boeing 737-800.

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Iran has used bulldozers to move around pieces of debris from a crashed Ukrainian passenger jet, possibly destroying evidence that could help prove what happened to the doomed flight.


Bulldozers clean up debris at the crash site on Wednesday, just hours after the Ukraine International Airlines jet came down 



Images and reports from the crash site, just outside the Iranian capital, Tehran, show at least one bulldozer working in the debris at the site, where the Boeing 737-800 crashed Wednesday morning, killing all 176 people on board.

The crash site is at the center of a tense geopolitical struggle over exactly what brought down the jet, which was operated by Ukrainian International Airlines.

Iran has said the plane crashed because of an unspecified technical issue on board.

But the US, British, and Canadian governments all say the jet was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile, citing information from their intelligence services. A video also appeared to show the impact.

Physical evidence from the crash site could provide more information about what happened, but the usefulness of the evidence could be compromised if it is disturbed.

Giancarlo Fiorella, a researcher for the investigative website Bellingcat, shared a thread of photos that he said showed heavy machinery at work.

"I find these photos distressing because this could potentially be the scene of a crime," Fiorella told Channel 4 News.

"If this was a shoot-down event, you don't want to disturb the crash site before a thorough investigation can be conducted, and I'm not sure that one has been conducted."

Eliot Higgins, another Bellingcat investigator, tweeted that disturbing the wreckage would make it "next to impossible" to properly investigate the crash.

Others, including the US ambassador to Germany, effectively accused Iran of mounting a cover-up.

The presence of heavy machinery at the crash site is among numerous problems that complicate the pursuit of the truth behind the crash.

The Ukrainian jet was manufactured by a US company, Boeing, whose participation in the investigation is in doubt amid a turbulent time for relations between Iran and the US.

It is not yet clear whether the US will be allowed access to the crash site to conduct its own investigation, but CNN, citing the country's semiofficial Fars News Agency, reported that Iran invited the US "as the manufacturer of Boeing to be present."

The Wall Street Journal cited Ali Abedzadeh, the head of Iran's Civil Aviation Organization, as telling Iran's Channel 2 news that the agency didn't plan on handing over the flight-recorder information to Boeing or the US in its investigation.

The investigation is further muddled as a preliminary report from an Iranian investigation indicated that the so-called black boxes aboard the plane — which harbor data and cockpit communications — were damaged and lost parts of their memory, the Associated Press reported.


A black box recovered from the crashed Boeing 737 is examined today with Tehran saying it wants to handle the flight recorders itself 



The Iranian report also said that "no radio messages were received from the pilot regarding unusual situations" and that eyewitnesses recalled seeing the plane engulfed in flames before the crash, the AP reported.

Abedzadeh denied any Iranian responsibility for the crash, The Journal reported, citing Iran's Channel 2. He told the local news outlet it was "not possible" an Iranian missile had hit the jet.

"How would the antiaircraft system shoot it?" Abedzadeh said. "It wasn't a security area."


Really...I'm no NTSB expert but this debris looks more like it came from a missile than a 737.


Does anyone truly believe anything the Iranians have ever said?




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Pelosi: Obama Doesn't Need Congressional Authorization for Libya Action




So Trump needs Congressional Authorization to kill a terrorist but Barry didn't? Proving once again she's a lying hypocrite world-class bitch!

Please watch the video below to the very end when a reporter asks Pelosi, “Madame Leader, you’re saying that the president did not need authorization initially and still does not need any authorization from Congress on Libya?”

She responded, “Yes.”


Don't know how that could be misinterpreted.









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(CNSNews.com) – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said she is “very protective of congressional prerogative” regarding military action but believes that President Barack Obama did not need Congress’ authorization to take action against Libya and does not need it today to continue with the operation.



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“Let me respond by saying I’ve always believed that it’s very important to respect the prerogatives of the Congress in terms of being involved in any military action, A. B, that the consultation between the executive and the legislative branch is essential whenever we engage in a military action. I believe the limited nature of this limited – of this engagement -- allows the president to go forward,” Pelosi said at a Capitol Hill press conference on Thursday.


“Now, I am reviewing the report he has, that they have sent to the Congress – the unclassified is in the public domain -- I’m going over the classified aspects of it,” she said. “But I think that part of that report shows an interaction and consultation with Congress and I’m satisfied that we can continue in the limited role that we have as part of NATO. If we had boots on the ground, mano a mano, that’s a different story.”


Pelosi continued, “I’m satisfied that the president has the authority he needs to go ahead and I say that as one very protective of congressional prerogative and very supportive of consultation all along the way.”

CNSNews.com then asked Pelosi, “Madame Leader, you’re saying that the president did not need authorization initially and still does not need any authorization from Congress on Libya?”

She responded, “Yes.”



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Thursday, January 9, 2020

Ukrainian jet crash that killed 176: Evidence suggests plane shot down by Iranian missiles





I figured they had something to do with it. Tweets like this should be coming out any minute now.


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The jet crashed shortly after taking off from the Tehran airport.

Jan. 9, 2020, 12:18 PM EST / Updated Jan. 9, 2020, 12:38 PM EST



The plane was carrying 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, three Britons, 11 Ukrainians, 10 Swedes, four Afghans and three Germans. 

So they killed 82 of their own people plus the 50 or so killed in the stampede at Soleimani's  funeral! At this rate Trump may never have to pull the trigger again.



Questions were first raised when pictures of the plane debris appeared to show shrapnel holes in the fuselage




Debris from the plane after it exploded in a fireball near Tehran yesterday morning




(Pictured, missile wreckage reportedly found near the scene) 


U.S. intelligence officials have evidence that suggests the Ukraine International Airlines jetliner that crashed in Iran on Wednesday, killing 176 people, was downed by an Iranian missile, multiple officials told NBC News.

An initial Iranian report released Thursday suggested a sudden emergency struck the Boeing 737 before it went down just moments after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran. The report said the crew of the jetliner never made a radio call for help and were trying to turn back for the airport when the plane went down.

Investigators from Iran's Civil Aviation Organization have offered no immediate explanation for the disaster.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy pledged to discover the "truth" behind the crash, and announced investigators from his country had arrived in Iran to assist in the probe.

The Ukrainian Embassy in Iran originally said that the crash was likely caused by an engine problem. It also ruled out terrorism or a rocket attack as possible causes. However, it later removed that information from its website and said the cause of the crash was under investigation.



What else would you expect.








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The contrast between Panty-boy and Trump...



Well, night and day doesn't begin to cover it!







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